Who Won the Brown-Warren Debate?

Incumbent Scott Brown and challenger Elizabeth Warren squared off in their first debate Thursday night.

Republican Senator Scott Brown faced off against Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren Thursday night in a debate televised by WBZ-TV. The Thursday debate was the first of four planned tilts between the candidates, and it saw disagreement between the two on just about every topic.

Polls have seesawed over the last week, with Brown and Warren swapping small leads, as they have throughout the campaign. The debates may provide one or the other an opportunity to change voter minds and swing the election his or her way.

Central to Thursday's debate was the focus on taxes, jobs and the economy.

"He has said he will defend the top 2 percent and the top 3 percent...and will hold the other 98% of families hostage," Warren said, referencing Brown's position against extending the Bush-era tax cuts unless it also contained cuts for the country's top earners.  

Brown countered by noting that Warren's policies would raise taxes, on everyone, in fact, it's the "first thing she looks to do," he said. 

"And the criticism is that I don't want to raise taxes," he said. "Guilty as charged. I'm not going to raise taxes. I'm going to protect taxpayers' pocketbooks and wallets."

Who do you think won the debate? Did the back and forth change your mind about the upcoming election? Did the candidates answer the questions you had? Tell us your thoughts in the comments below.

Dan O'Neil September 23, 2012 at 01:36 AM
Avon someone sent me the story. I thought it was cool. I felt like sharing it. I wasn't looking for a pat on the back. I could completely agree with you and seems like you'd still have an issue. The bottom line is I simply don't trust Elizabeth Warren. I think she's got something to hide and to boot she's a 1%'er. I'm a republican that voted for Martha Coakley because I had a good idea what Scott Brown was about. I'm not a Scott Brown guy, but at least I know what he is and as the old saying goes better dealing with the devil you know than the devil you don't.
Heather September 23, 2012 at 02:22 AM
@ Just Me!, I have been working in the food service industry for 25 years. In fact, I have a BS in Restaurant management. Your stats are not correct. Where I work now there are 4 latino employees. That is in a restaurant that employs over 100 people. I have worked at places that have more and I have worked at places that have less but I have never worked someplace that was even close to 75%. Here are some stats for you, although a bit dated they clearly show that your stats are not even close. http://www.restaurant.org/tools/magazines/rusa/magArchive/year/article/?ArticleID=410
Richard W. Lunt September 23, 2012 at 03:20 AM
A vote for Warren and Obama is a vote for higher taxes, more increased debt, high unemployment, out of control spending, more illegals coming into the United States, and more of the 47 percenters who are on welfare and can afford flat screen TV's and new cars. A vote for Scott Brown and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan is a vote for lower taxes, more money in our pockets, less spending, low unemployment, and more real private sector jobs instead of those shovel ready union jobs.
Just Me! September 23, 2012 at 03:43 AM
Heather..I have 10 years on you in the food service industry and have seen the changes up close and personal..secondly..my statement of 75% is not "In" a particular restaurant.....I am speaking of the greater Boston Area...you can hit me with every link in the world but it makes no difference ...i have friends in the food service industry all over the country who concur....why pay one person a higher wage..when you can split it and have 2 for the price of one....The fact that your place of employment only employs 4 latinos out of a hundred employees...could raise questions...but who am I to judge....lol
Kerry Payson September 23, 2012 at 01:48 PM
Hi Dan, This lesson would work if all things were equal. Unfortunately, though, all things are not equal. I volunteer approximately seven times each year cooking and serving for 1 soup kitchen and 2 homeless shelters in MA. I have been doing this volunteer work now for 16 years. I am a busy mom with three boys, work for a living and still find time to do this. Most people who are living in a homeless shelter are there for no more than 1 year. It is temporary housing for them, usually because some tragedy happened in their life. Most are single parents and all of them work. The year or so that they are there is meant to help catch them up with earning enough money so they can get back on track. Because some are dealing with very difficult issues (domestic abuse, drugs or alcohol abuse, lack of education, etc.), they also receive help while they are there. I have been very impressed with the system. It is not perfect, but it does help thousands of families and everyone I have met so far want to be on their own. At the soup kitchen, most of the people we feed are alone (although some families do attend) and those who are alone suffer from a variety of things - mental disease, some physical disabilities, etc. Most who suffer from mental diseases are not competent to work. It's very sad. In MA, the average age of a homeless person is age 8. There are many stereotypes out there about people who are homeless and the most hurtful one is that they do not want to work.
Heather September 23, 2012 at 02:29 PM
@Just Me and what questions would it raise that the restaurant I work at only has 4 latino employees? What are you trying to imply? Also, in all the years I have worked in management I have never paid my employees different wages depending on their ethnicity. Are you saying that you pay your latino employees less than others? If that is the case then you have a problem. I pay my staff according to their abilities and experience, not the color of their skin.
Dan O'Neil September 23, 2012 at 05:53 PM
@Heather. I'm well aware that some people are not physically or mentally able to work. I also do my share of volunterring. I started the Challenger Basketball league in town for special needs children. That lesson should apply to people who have the ability to get off there ass and work.
Fiscal Conservative September 23, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Kevin: Congress is comprised of the wealthy (aka 1%'ers). Do really think that they will vote themselves a tax increase? Get real, it won't happen in your or my lifetime. Tax laws were written and passed by Congress. Blame them for the mess. No matter what, every politician in DC (or Boston) will take care of themselves first. Middle Class will continue to suffer until a Flat Tax is placed into law. That is a Flat Tax where everyone is EQUAL. Everyone gets the exact same amount of deductions and the same tax rate. Will never happen because Congress has gone beyond CORRUPT. There is no hope for you or I. We will suffer because those in power want us to. They relie on their Constituents being totally STUPID as to what they do.
Heather September 23, 2012 at 09:02 PM
@Dan O'Neil, and this is directed to me why?
Fiscal Conservative September 23, 2012 at 09:54 PM
How many times will you vote?
Daniel F. Devine September 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Well Said Christopher! - - What's wrong with people backing this PHONEY? I can understand all the MILLIONS of freeloaders & illegals voting for him (many multiple times each), but what's wrong with the rest of the population? He's destroying OUR country! Four years wasn't enough, he needs another four to finish the job! Well, if he's re-elected, at least we can say: "I told you so". I fear it may be too late anyway.
DJ September 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM
This "story" is indeed just that. A dated, recycled, fiction piece of propaganda that made resurfaced onto early conservative emails many years ago. The only thing correct is that this had nothing to do with the debate or even the candidates as it can and has been used interchangeably. Come on people....lets put our thinking caps on and at least attempt to move FORWARD>>>>>>>>>!
DJ September 23, 2012 at 11:46 PM
And Brown knew this. He is the scheister. He knows this was a complicated issue and he pounced......inauthentically. A squirmy little lawyer move and just another lie for Senator Brown to tuck in his feather cap. I hope she stops with taking the high road. Brown takes the low one repeatedly but to his credit, does so somewhat authentically. The DEM base has instructed Warren to back off and soften her tact. Bad advise that harmed her in the debate.
DJ September 23, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Have not been a Brown fan, but have repeatedly found myself backing her mostly due to this and other misinformed issues. All of Warren's siblings and first cousins were brought up with the same understanding that they were part indian. Only distant cousins did not have that perception. A huge difference from Senator Brown's claims that were entirely unknown to all his closer family members and friends including his wife. Yes, there was agreement that Brown's mom played or jumped around, but NO one could could or did corroborate his charges of sexual abuse. Charges he only recently made. So Senator, please "Prove" these allegations are true. Should be much easier then trying to decipher the personal exploits in indian nation decades old with few if any paper trails and documents for such indices.
christopher tingus September 24, 2012 at 12:01 AM
The Dems have always taken the low road as We again see the Rev Wright-Obama pulpit and Ms. Hillary on Pakastani tv talking aboutv some flick few even knew about so as to distract from the issue - a WH which only attends 38% of intel briefings and has a lock and kep embassy with forewarning of impending challenges now video showing not throngs of people, but a small contingent of armed men attacking and sodomizing and torturing a US Ambassador, tearing the American flag to shreds and hoisting he Black AQ flag and these fools are on television in pakastan while CNN provides even more limelight to the "Brutes of Tehran" hosting this thug on US television - Just wait and see - Read Pslam 83! This "Chicago-Hollywood-Washington Express" promoting this racist "Rev Wright-Obama pulpit" in empty rhetorical orations where in his pledge he has not only left Black America with far greater unemployment, especially Black youth in 2012 than in 2008, however this hal;f white man seeking in every way to divide and distract from his pledge that if he was not able to cut the defecit in half, he would be a one term - Well, it is again interesting that when letterman asked him what the national debt was in '08 when he took office - Obama could not recall - ($10.6 trillion) - however We know - Independent Voters who will run to the polls to oust this "Chicago city street slicker" who unfurled his own version of the American flag this week by the way
DJ September 24, 2012 at 12:08 AM
Linda, I completely agree and my experience concurs with your own: That abuse occurs from BOTH sides of political landscape. Humans seem to have a propensity for greed, but I still believe the majority is and or wants to be honest and that majority, not unlike the minority is divided, but not in their intent for a better future.
Avon Barksdale September 24, 2012 at 12:58 AM
I guess I should never be amazed to see people who treat politics like it's the Red Sox versus the Yankees. Everyone who is with MY PARTY is fantastically patriotic and everyone who is with THE OTHER PARTY is not only stupid but they are contributing to the decline of both the nation and civilization. Really, if you feel the need to simply insult and yell (or post "funny anecdotes" that demonstrate what destructive fools The Other Party is) simply because someone is either a Democrat or a Republican, you should probably invest in (a) a mirror, and (b) someone to help you with self-assessment. Do I insult people here? Sure. But I firmly believe that I reserve my insults for those who demonstrate individualized lack of critical thinking skills, independent of political affiliation.
DJ September 24, 2012 at 01:11 AM
Ah, only two paragraphs before you inserted a scripture and you wonder why the Independent voter will determine this race? Personally, I am so dejected by the 30 second rhetoric and unchallenged propaganda piece that fraudulently makes its way to the "fact" boards that I'm amazed I am merly an Independent, but suspect that too shall change.
DJ September 24, 2012 at 01:41 AM
Wow City Guy, what benefits did Warren apply for using her "made up heritage"?. I'm third generation Irish and I've yet to identify half my "clan" on paper. Indian nation was not exactly ahead of turn of the century documentation initiatives all of which were hand done and paper cut. Given my experiences trying to "confirm" paternal Irish background, I found my sir name confused and mixed with six different spellings with an array of religious, demographic and ancestral dynamics. So I'd suggest you look inward to realize that your misgivings are likely no more personally distant from your own history then you lack of empathy to same.
Arthur Christopher Schaper September 25, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Ms. Warren did a creditable job for her first debate. Unfortunately, she did not persuade prospective voters that she would be an independent yet bipartisan voice in Washington, as Scott Brown already has demonstrated over the past two years. I think Senator Brown deserves the honor of representing the Commonwealth for a full six-year term.
Jay Walpole September 27, 2012 at 05:44 AM
Spot on.
Jay Walpole September 27, 2012 at 05:46 AM
Agreed ... It is time to move forward .
Jay Walpole September 27, 2012 at 05:48 AM
She has integrity .. More than I can say for his tomahawk wielding staff.
Jay Walpole September 27, 2012 at 05:58 AM
Why do you call educated people moon bats? Aside from the pick up , Bruins and Red Sox shirts how is this "stay at home Dad" regular guy ... Hopefully you would want more than a regular guy for your Senator. She has championed the middle class, Stood up a Federal Consumer Agency, written 9 books on Finance and bankruptcy, been a school teacher, a stay at home Mom, etc. What has Scott Brown accomplished that matches her accomplishments? He has the head of the Cherokee Nation pretty upset ... Oh ... I forgot He meets with Kings and Queens on a regular basis.
Jay Walpole September 27, 2012 at 06:02 AM
Kevin ... you get it ... Warren will hold Wall Street and the Banks accountable. They do not want to see her get elected because she wrote the book. She sees through the shady and risky deals and will put a stop to them .. They should be afraid ... No more free reign...
Jay Walpole September 27, 2012 at 06:10 AM
Brown can not run in Massachusetts on his actual record ... so the smoke screen ... He makes up the crisis, angers the head of the Cherokee Nation and refuses to apologize. Lets take about Health Care, tough regulations on financial corporations that are too big to fail etc... If Brown had voted for the people of Massachusetts , that would be his lead story ... But his lead story is a racial slur and character deformation. Have you asked why he afraid to discuss his ACTUAL record?
Dan O'Neil September 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Sorry Heather. Meant to be @ Kerry. Too many damn comments lol.
Eve Viens September 28, 2012 at 01:57 PM
I want to know if this woman is legally licensed in Ma? It says every where not.....Even though she has an office in Cambridge and that is listed as her address on many her big cases in the past. If she is not legal what the hell is she doing on this ballet? Let's get some facts..
Janet Sroczynski September 28, 2012 at 02:09 PM
@Eve Viens - take a listen here below. I also posted the information on the Easton/Patch.com website at least 24-hours in advance, prior to the Q&A-question and answer session with Deval Patrick's photo pictured. WRKO regarding Elizabeth Warren - does she or does she not have a law license? Let's listen in with the link provided: http://audio.WRKO.com/a/63759190/michael-patrick-leahy-on-granny-warren-s-little-law-license-problem-htm Howie Karr show with Michael Patrick Leahy interview with Michelle. Listen to the part about "if Harvard University accepted $$$'s, then possible fraud" exists, due to a violation of Mass.Law. Then listen to the part regarding the welfare office. Check with the Massachusetts Board of Bar Overseers. Harvard University offers Tuition Remission and Tuition Reimbursement, so Elizabeth Warren has no excuse there either.
Sinclair September 28, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Quote from the Mass. BBO: "Rule 5.5 of the Massachusetts Rules of Professional Conduct states that an attorney cannot, without a license to practice in Massachusetts, "establish an office or other systematic and continuous presence in this jurisdiction for the practice of law." It also states an attorney cannot, without a license, "hold out to the public or otherwise represent that the lawyer is admitted to practice law in this jurisdiction." Michael Fredrickson, general counsel for the BBO, says he does not believe a law professor would be considered to have "a continuous presence" or "an office practicing law." "If they actually practice here - as some part-time law professors at some of the smaller schools do - they might," Fredrickson says. "But being a professor at one of the large schools, their office is a professor's office, and the fact that they tend to dabble in the practice of law doesn't run afoul of our rule. I don't think Elizabeth Warren would fall within that, such that she would have to register here."


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